tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-22782293.post115500088098576369..comments2023-10-31T20:10:29.815+09:00Comments on 男らしい: For the questions that bug ya!: 得る・得ない expressing possibilityjljzen88http://www.blogger.com/profile/15439383931292036187noreply@blogger.comBlogger5125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-22782293.post-73028563819965416732007-09-20T09:18:00.000+09:002007-09-20T09:18:00.000+09:00oops, that was mean to be 降り得ない!oops, that was mean to be 降り得ない!Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14081609443993219410noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-22782293.post-79762051833861130092007-09-20T09:16:00.000+09:002007-09-20T09:16:00.000+09:00from what my teacher has told me, classically, できる...from what my teacher has told me, classically, できる expresses the possibility due to ability, for example:<BR/>日本語ができる<BR/>However, 得る expresses possibility due to a condition. I'm not good with this form yet, but I'll hazard a guess:<BR/>空に雲がないので雨が振り得ない<BR/>... something like that.<BR/>He also said that now the ability/condition rule has become less strong, and the two can be used somewhat interchangeably (if you do use 得る), but I'd probably advise sticking to it cause then it's harder to go wrong.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-22782293.post-1157731954065911592006-09-09T01:12:00.000+09:002006-09-09T01:12:00.000+09:00こんにちは。×先生は間違えることができる。 意味はわかるが、使わない日本語×先生は間違える可能だ。...こんにちは。<BR/><BR/>×先生は間違えることができる。<BR/> 意味はわかるが、使わない日本語<BR/><BR/>×先生は間違える可能だ。<BR/> 文法的にダメ<BR/><BR/>×先生は間違えられる。<BR/> 可能ではなく、受身の意味ならOK<BR/><BR/> あの先生は、若く見えるので、よく事務の人に、学生に間違えられる。(学生だと思われる)Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-22782293.post-1155180427377635882006-08-10T12:27:00.000+09:002006-08-10T12:27:00.000+09:00Lol nobody answered. Well to be honest I don't kn...Lol nobody answered. Well to be honest I don't know the difference in nuance between them but I'm gonna try to find out...<BR/><BR/>Maybe we can discuss it on Sat!Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-22782293.post-1155081968851007132006-08-09T09:06:00.000+09:002006-08-09T09:06:00.000+09:00この点はもうマスターになっちゃったのは、あり得ないよ!ところで、どのように「得をする」という言葉を使...この点はもうマスターになっちゃったのは、あり得ないよ!<BR/>ところで、どのように「得をする」という言葉を使いますか?jljzen88https://www.blogger.com/profile/15439383931292036187noreply@blogger.com